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« on: July 15, 2008, 03:38:17 pm »

I found someone from China that was willing to make the purchase for me, though the total was kind of expensive due to shipping/service fee.

Anyways, I haven't really gotten to use it much yet but it's as you expected from a 3g sensor mice.  As the pictures indicate, it's EXTREMELY small and light weighted!  That's kind of what I want.  If anybody has any question, I'll be happy to answer it.

P.S. I had to buy extras to justify the cost, so I'll probably be selling it on ebay or something.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 10:48:35 pm »

Salmosa is definitely the smallest and light weighted mouse that Razer has released(well kinda released).  It's definitely as advertise, "Designed to be one of the lightest and most compact mice of its class, it is the ideal mouse of choice for finger-tip grip gamers who seek both speed and control."  You definitely don't want to palm grip this thing, it's just too small for that type of style.

First thing you'll notice about the Salmosa is that it only has 2 buttons and a mousewheel.  There are no side buttons like other Razer products.  That's definitely because Razer wants to keep this mouse as simple as possible.  Second, you'll notice that the buttons are not covered by a special fancy rubber that we are familiar with other Razer mice such as Deathadder, Diamondback, etc.. The mice chassis is basically entirely plastic, I wonder if it has to do with making it as light weighted as it is.  Its side is coated with gloss that gives that mice Ferrari look to it, similar to the Deathadder or Lachesis.

One of Razer's goal for this mice is that it is built to work perfectly without special drivers.  So you can bring the mouse to a tournament/lan party without having to worry to install some special Razer driver.  Incidentally, the mouse is also not packaged with a driver cd.  Though, this could change for the Worldwide release of the mouse.  The mouse does conveniently have a DPI switch in its back, it has two options of 800dpi and 1800dpi.  Some people have worried that you might toggle it by accident.  Don't worry, it is not a concern at all.  The switch is a solid tight and you would not easily toggle it by accident.

The shape of Salmosa is very conventional for a mouse.  It's shaped to fit a "fingertip grip" gamer.  What is kind of special about the Salmosa is the size of its buttons.  As I mentioned, they are plastic buttons that you would get from any old 5 dollars mouse.  But the button is versatile enough that you can click from the front of the button to the back.  Just imagine Deathadder's button with a body of a Salmosa.  Though one thing to note is that Salmosa's button is not quite as loose as many of the newer Razer mice, basically it takes a little more force to push.  But don't get me wrong, it's still very flexible and effortless, the feel is just not quite the same.

I do want to mention the only potential problem with the build of the mouse.  This occurred when I first started using the mouse.  My finger tip was sometimes placed at the very front tip of the mouse buttons.  When I pushed to click, the back of the mouse would sometimes tip upward as if you suddenly put a lot of weight in a front of a boat to make it wobble.  Basically this is a balance issue with the mouse due to its lightness and with the fingertip grip, but I had soon eliminated that problem by not placing my fingers that far to the front.

Lastly, I do want to mention the few things that you should expect from Salmosa.  Its mousewheel is very solid, it's covered with nice comfortable rubber.  It's as you should expect from a Razer mouse.  The mouse feet are covered with the same smooth material as other industry standards, so you shouldn't need to get any special mouse skates to replace them.  Salmosa should work perfect well with any mousepad you had use with your old Razer 3g(or not) mice.

Basically Salmosa is built for gamers who wants to have the most compact, light weighted, precise mouse in the market.  It is hands down the best that fits that description.  It is NOT for everyone!  Starcraft/Warcraft/RTS players realizes how smaller mice gives them that extra precision and control, this mouse definitely serves that need.  The Logitech Mini Optical(a favorite among top Starcraft pro-gamers) is limited by its outdated optical sensor.  For most part, the LMO will serve your purpose but as game screen resolution goes up, the more software guesswork needs to be done to scale for the mouse.  Salmosa is the first of its kind by Razer to try to satisfy the need for a specific group of gamers looking for a specific kind of mouse.  I am definitely very satisfied with this mouse because that's exactly what I was looking for.  It's not fancy but it gets the job done(very well).  I hope this review help someone decide if Salmosa is the right mouse for you.

I mentioned how small the mouse is, but here are some pics I took.

More mice comparison: http://i209.photobucket.c...5/SirNeb/5micecompare.jpg
Take a look at the scale: http://i209.photobucket.c...15/SirNeb/sizecompare.jpg

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I added height comparisons to the deathadder and the logitech mini optical:

http://i209.photobucket.c...SirNeb/heightcompare1.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.c...SirNeb/heightcompare2.jpg

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 12:57:05 pm »

Excellent review!

This mouse is definitely way too small for me, because I actually use the "finger-tip" technique with my DeathAdder so I guess I have pretty large hands  Roll Eyes

Nice to see that you had it sent over from China, you must be one crazy and impatient Razer fan!  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 04:51:14 pm »

I added height comparisons to the deathadder and the logitech mini optical:

http://i209.photobucket.c...SirNeb/heightcompare1.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.c...SirNeb/heightcompare2.jpg
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 04:56:06 pm »

Excellent review!

This mouse is definitely way too small for me, because I actually use the "finger-tip" technique with my DeathAdder so I guess I have pretty large hands  Roll Eyes

Nice to see that you had it sent over from China, you must be one crazy and impatient Razer fan!  Grin


Thanks, ya I really wanted the mouse.  It was looking for a mouse of that size and weight with a better sensor.  I'm pretty happy with it. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 06:24:54 pm »

That is one tiny mouse. Nice review. Any comments on the tracking? Any lift-off issues?
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 06:40:11 pm »

That is one tiny mouse. Nice review. Any comments on the tracking? Any lift-off issues?

So far, there is no noticeable acceleration, I use the no acceleration fix posted in the general forums.  It's pretty much the same as my deathadder(i didn't have any issues with it).  As far as lift off issues, I use Steel Series Qck and everything works as I would expect.  I would estimate the sensor shuts off about 3mm lifted off the mousepad.

If you have any other test method you can advice me to do, I'll do it for you.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 06:43:28 pm »

Hello all,

The picture you are viewing of the Salmosa is  the Asian  version of the mouse. We have received  a large amount of feedback in the markets in Asia that mice currently on the market  are much too large and they are not made with smaller hands in mind. The US and European regions have voiced no such concerns. The Salmosa released in the US and EU markets will be a slightly larger version of the mice you see in the picture.  It will be still smaller than the DiamondBack, just not as small as the one in the picture. Stay tuned to the Razer website for actual size specifications once the product is released.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 08:10:33 pm »

Hello all,

The picture you are viewing of the Salmosa is  the Asian  version of the mouse. We have received  a large amount of feedback in the markets in Asia that mice currently on the market  are much too large and they are not made with smaller hands in mind. The US and European regions have voiced no such concerns. The Salmosa released in the US and EU markets will be a slightly larger version of the mice you see in the picture.  It will be still smaller than the DiamondBack, just not as small as the one in the picture. Stay tuned to the Razer website for actual size specifications once the product is released.

Razer|Wave

Thanks Wave for clearing up, do you have any idea when the US/EU salmosa will be released?  Or at least when you guys are planning to announce the actual date?
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 09:18:54 pm »

SirNeb told about one switch under mouse [DPI switch] @asian version
But i saw on razerzone.com site this:

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Hardware Toggles for DPI and Polling Rate
The Razer Salmosa comes with additional toggle switches on the bottom of the mouse that enable gamers to make 800/1800dpi and 125/500/1000Hz polling rate adjustments – without the need for any software drivers.

Soo... USA/EU version of Salmosa will have pooling rate switchers ? :-)
And Razer|Wave - good to hear, that USA/EU version will be a bit larger.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 09:51:46 pm »

Right now, I'm using another method to adjust my polling rate.  The mouse is definitely capable of the standard rates it would seems.  Actually I'm not using any Razer drivers, it's not necessary right now for most part. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 10:59:47 pm »

Thanks for the heads up on this Razer|Wave.

Is there any chance you could post comparison pics once the two different versions are finalised.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2008, 11:02:57 pm »

Copperhead = 130mm x 66mm x 41mm
Diamondback = 129mm x 63mm x 38.5mm
Salmosa (US Version) = 115mm x 63mm x 37mm
Salmosa (China Version) = 95.9mm x 54.4mm x 33.3mm

LOL the China Salmosa looks like it's made for Mini-Me.  If people from Asia were complaining that mice in the market were too large....wouldn't it make more sense to make like the Deathadder or Lachesis smaller?  Instead of miniaturizing your smallest mouse?   Grin

My first impressions of the Salmosa (China Version)...the mouse is so light that it gets pushed around by the usb cord...the Razer Armadillo cable management thingy might be a good idea to use with this mouse.  It's not really a big deal after the cord loses it's initial stiffness.  The sensor feels pretty much like the Deathadder/Diamondback 3G.  Lift distance is same as the Deathadder...needs to be a tiny bit smaller.  Not a problem with the black eXactMat...but they track noticably higher on the white eXactMat and Destructor mousepad. Hopefully they don't have a problem with the Goliathus Control Edition that I'm gonna pre-order today. 

My biggest concern about this mouse would be getting a consistent grip.  The mouse is so tiny that my grip is different everytime I hold the mouse.  But all in all...the China Salmosa is a better finger-tip grip mouse than my Deathadder and Diamondback 3G.  I like the shape of my Copperhead better...but I'll be using the Salmosa because it tracks way better.

I haven't tried the drivers yet.  Not sure if the menus/buttons/instructions in the driver are all labeled in Chinese lol.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2008, 02:45:56 am »

Right now, I'm using another method to adjust my polling rate.  The mouse is definitely capable of the standard rates it would seems.  Actually I'm not using any Razer drivers, it's not necessary right now for most part. 

Ya...the default polling rate on the Salmosa is 125Hz.  I used the Hidusbf utility to "overclock" my usb ports.  500Hz is no problem.  It won't do 1,000Hz though.  Highest I got it to go was 700Hz. 
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2008, 03:02:08 am »

I just noticed that I had to reinstall my poll rate changer.  I need to remember how I did it in vista64 again.. Sad

*edit* yup, you are right, it looks like the poll rate is maxed at ~700 if you set it to 1000 with Hidusbf.
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