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« on: September 01, 2008, 03:16:14 pm »
Hello, I have had my copperhead for about a year now and recently I have noticed that if I press and hold down mouse 1 too hard it stops working. Imagine I'm playing CS and I want to spray the m4 at an enemy, if I press down mouse 1 it will start to fire as I'm pressing down the button but as soon as it gets fully pressed down the firing stops. This problem doesn't occur if I press the mouse softly but I often press the button down hard and it happens at the worst time. Is there a way to fix this or do I have to return the mouse or..?
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 02:22:46 pm »
Oh dear, my LMB died like that too Sad  I think it's fatal, unless you have a spare micro-switch to install.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2008, 07:21:37 pm »
ahh thats gay, I bought it from ebay too so no rma Sad, oh well it was only £25, I think i'll just buy it again from razer this time.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 08:37:08 pm »
since theres no more warranty...then there is no harm in opening up the mouse and trying to see wats wrong.
just remove a screw thats under the large mouse feet, and slowly pry the cover open...
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 07:50:11 pm »
Well I opened it up anyway since I bought Copperhead Pro-Tools kit, and I couldn't see any immediate things stopping it working. Although I bought a new Copperhead mouse now and its working ok. I think loosening or tightening the screw on the back of the mouse might give the buttons more room to click but I dunno coz my mate fixed his this way.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 11:27:29 am »
Ah, are you saying that it is is now fixed, even though you're not sure quite how?  I should open mine up!
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 03:51:54 pm »
I recently found out that this problem occurs a lot with the copperhead mouse. If anyone buys one like this, return it asap. I didn't buy mine directly from Razer so i had to botch mine to work. I realised that it is the mouse's case part of the button which is faulty not the electronic of the mouse. The problem is that the space between the mouse button and the bit that you press it down to is not large enough. I couldn't do anything with the existing case so i what I did was bought the Copperhead Pro-Tools kit from eBay. With this kit i installed the case, along with the weights and side buttons, there was a wider gap between the button and the casing. Now I could hear the click sound before the button was fully pressed down. If you don't want to buy the Kit, I also noticed that the position your place your fingers in pressing the button affected it's likeliness of *censored*ing up. If you press the buttons at the very end of the mouse when clicking i recommend moving your fingertips further back and using the claw grip "http://img175.imageshack....175/5669/mousegriphu7.jpg" as opposed to the palm grip. Another thing is make sure you don't accidently tap Right mouse button while holding down LMB because it will stop the LMB key press or stop the gun firing (in CS) Tongue

GL thx and goodnight Wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 06:17:24 pm »
Quote from: darkshadowhawk on October 19, 2008, 03:51:54 pm
I recently found out that this problem occurs a lot with the copperhead mouse. If anyone buys one like this, return it asap. I didn't buy mine directly from Razer so i had to botch mine to work. I realised that it is the mouse's case part of the button which is faulty not the electronic of the mouse. The problem is that the space between the mouse button and the bit that you press it down to is not large enough. I couldn't do anything with the existing case so i what I did was bought the Copperhead Pro-Tools kit from eBay. With this kit i installed the case, along with the weights and side buttons, there was a wider gap between the button and the casing. Now I could hear the click sound before the button was fully pressed down. If you don't want to buy the Kit, I also noticed that the position your place your fingers in pressing the button affected it's likeliness of *censored*ing up. If you press the buttons at the very end of the mouse when clicking i recommend moving your fingertips further back and using the claw grip "http://img175.imageshack....175/5669/mousegriphu7.jpg" as opposed to the palm grip. Another thing is make sure you don't accidently tap Right mouse button while holding down LMB because it will stop the LMB key press or stop the gun firing (in CS) Tongue

GL thx and goodnight Wink


I have been struggling with this forever myself, searching endlessly until finaly opening up the mouse and realizing what you also realized.  And special thanks for the link of a picture of the "claw" vs "palm" style, something that's been talked about since my first boomslang a decade ago but until now I've been unable to find a picture of (tells a thousand words).

So, I've learned that I fall into the "palm" category most of the time.  I've been using nothing but Razers since my first boomslang, incl. the viper, diamondback and now my copperhead.

I've toyed a bit with tinkering with the button casing (like temporarily adding material to increase the contact area) but no luck.  You're dead-on that the button has to be pressed at just the right spot. (I don't have the pro tools to test)

I've previously considered switching to a Habu or DeathAdder to solve this issue.  I love my copperhead, I really do (I've been using it for over a year trying to live with that one issue).  And I love the big buttons, but the small contact area to the switch just causes to many problems.  My standard hand position has my ring finger resting on the right mouse button and pressing the RMB close to front of the mouse (corded end) with a quick tap.  I use my index finger for the LMB and my middle finger for the wheel.  I'm a high sensitivity user.

I'm afraid howerver that the Habu/DeathAdder will suffer from the same small contact area.  Is anyone familiar with the internals of the Habu/DeathAdder compared to the Copperhead that could shead some light?

Thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 02:52:40 pm »
Does anyone have a reliable source for the micro-switches that are in the mice? My LMB is double clicking everytime I use it and it is finally gotten to me, I removed the mouse from my system. And now I'm really missing it.  Wink

I figure I'll just replace the switch if I can find the part.

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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 02:41:50 pm »
You might want to check the posts above before buying new microswitches - they suggest that it is not the switch at fault but the contact with the button!
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 03:39:22 pm »
I did look at the contact. It does appear to be a little bit more worn compared to the others. However, I put a dot of glue on the bottom of that contact to increase its length hoping that it would solve it, but it didn't affect it. I then looked over the microswitches and I can definitely feel a difference between the two main button switches as far as depth they need to be pressed down before they engage. The specs for that switch is rated at 1,000,000 clicks, I might just be at that point Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 10:30:36 am »
I see.  Perhaps you can find a broken Razer mouse on eBay going cheap - that might be a good source of components.
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