Could you guys use all the side buttons without need to adjust your grip?

i have no problems in hitting the closer one as well, but after i swap 1 position back to be able to hit both of em i find it worse since i usualy hit both of em. 1 position even further back and i have no problem getting the further one but the closer one is hard to press, still able and i dont press both in same time, but after a longer period of time thumb can hurt some. I am used to use only 1 side button anyway so i feel satisfied with the 1st setting i mentioned = i only reach the closer one without any problem.

After some time of usage i find the mouse perfectly flexible. The dpi setting size is awesome. I am not limited by low sens of 1800 like in DA 3G and that is very good for fast games like quake. I just dont like the stepping in mouses. Its cool on paper that mouse can change dpi by 1 (like SS Xai) or 100 (R Imperator) but that is probably made by using software interpoling of the sensor. I would much better see the real stepping of 400/800/1800/3500/5600 and be sure that the software isnt messin up the precision.

Other thing is the "piano black slick" sides.
I dont know why they are so stubborn about this. It was mentioned plenty of times as a big disadvantage in long term usage. (Take for example the Razer Lycosa keyboard). And they still stick to this.
I find my hands very dry and i keep them clean srsly. I dont sweat at all, but still the mouse gets messed every hour or so. I have to keep a dishtowel or a tissue near to clean it up now and then since it gets uncomfortable after like 2-3 hrs of usage.
The mouse is also quite high and it forces itself into my hand (but i am just too used to Diamondback slick and low profile)

What do you think guys about the sliders? Do you use any "bonus" ones? I find my top sliders perfect, the middle one (around sensor) is not yet used (i think its lower than the rest), but the big one on the bottom not sticking with 100% of the place to the mat, and i feel it a little bit "bumpy" on the right side.

to test the z-axis *censored* (and i cant believe tbh that you have the one and only mouse without that problem) just pick up and put down your mouse fiew times, and watch the result.

About the wheel, i've just tested it, and i have no problem in that. Mine works perfectly ok, maybe you have a defective one, i would consider writing to your reseller about the problem.
PS. i just love the new mousescroll (Mamba/Imperator/Abyssus) rubbery with deeper carvings, and also looks k00l

If you play on high sens you dont have to pickup your mouse too often, that is why you probably dont see the z-axis problem, so this means this is 100% mouse for you!

Yeah at the moment it's the case that the Philips Twin-Eye sensor is more accurate than the G9x for example; BUT it has z-axis tracking, which shouldn't bother you though if you are high-senser and use a hard mousepad.

Besids: No the Copperhead doesn't have z-axis tracking. It's a simple correlation sensor that is only able to track x- and y-axis.

 Movement you are kinda of confusing. You say that as a high sens player I will not be bothered by the z axis problem. But then in my mind I think ok a person with a lower sensitivity is going to be desensitizing the "extra movement" so wouldn't a low sens player, especially if they go super low, not even notice it? And then just the opposite is true for a high sensitivity player? I do pick up the mouse even if less than a low sens player and relocate the mouse smaller distances never the less it does happen. Are people just exaggerating or nit picking this z-axis deal?

I'm not calling you a liar, just playing devils advocate.

Could you elaborate on why the phillips feels more accurate than the avago 9500? Maybe compare the avago 9500 to whatever is in the deathadder respawn?

Thanks

I mean this. If as a low sens player it moves 100 pixels in whatever direction. Then in a high sensitivity setting its going to move 1000 pixels in whatever direction.
 I'm so confused right now its not funny. Some people have no z-axis prob and some do. Who knows.


heres a video of someone using the mouse and i don't see any problems.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/3pSEJxvvz9o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/3pSEJxvvz9o</a>
but I can't confirm he ever relocates the mouse.

And then we have this video
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MZhFKOq8CM8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/MZhFKOq8CM8</a>

I'd rather see the problem be pointed out during gameplay. I still use my razer boomslang ball mouse from time to time and of course when you reloacte it , it makes the cursor move as a result of the ball re-nesting into the mouse and it doesn't bother be the least bit. I'm going to have to try this mouse first hand to figure this out. But that seems impossible....

The question I asked, was about the Copperhead's side buttons.
Since they're impossible to hit without adjusting your grip, for me.

I have to pick between being able to scroll the wheel with my index finger, or using the side buttons.

personally I wouldn't call it less precise but ok